THIS IS NOT MY POST – THIS IS ONE WRITTEN BY ANDY AUSTIN BUT I REALLY LIKE IT IN TERMS OF NLP CLAIMS AND THE REALITY OF THOSE CLAIMS AND WHY.

To add to this, I too often wonder about all this supposed modelling. I don’t wish to dismiss the original question in this thread as I think it has worth, but I have to ask where are all the models and demonstrations of the excellence that is so frequently claimed in NLP?

For example:

– Did an NLPer ever win the target shooting at the Olympics?
– Do we have legions of NLPers making money on the stock exchange, in property investment?
– Do we have NLPers offering lessons in healing on hospital wards?
– Any NLPers competing and winning at Nascar?
– Any NLPers inventing new machines and technology?
– Any champion fighters, boxers or gamblers who got there from NLP modelling?
– Any medical breakthroughs from NLP modelling?

There may be one or two, but I doubt there are very many despite there being many, many thousands of people trained in NLP and claiming qualification.

I think in part it goes wrong because to do any of these things involves a great amount of work, and many NLPers don’t want to do “work” – what they want to do is NLP!

There are undoubtedly a very great number of dedicated people who work in the criminal justice system who well understand the model of criminality from a multiple of aspects. I doubt such understanding comes through chatting to a few crims though. Hard work, dedication and being in it for the long haul will probably help a lot.

One of the problems in-built into the world of NLP is that so many people are attracted to NLP for selfish purposes i.e. personal development and recreation. It’s fun, it fulfils, it’s a good thing to do.

However, many jobs such as medicine/nursing, criminal justice, military and so on require something else – the ability to deal with really shitty times and bad days at the office, physical and mental exhaustion, physical and mental threats and challenges and so on.

These are usually the very things that the NLPer and coach seeks to avoid – it is one of the reasons that so many self-employed seek self employment – to avoid the pain of work.

It is just unfortunate that so many end up avoiding not just the pain, but they also avoid the work itself.